Tuesday, September 22, 2009

A RARE COOL CALM ANALYSIS OF THE GEO-POLITICAL FRAMEWORK IN WHICH THE LISBON TREATY SITS.

ESSENTIAL READING. POSTED BY WILTING http://www.politics.ie/lisbon-treaty/104249-democracy-lisbon-treaty.

The issue that is of foremost concern to me in the context of the European Union is democracy.

It is not an uncommon claim that the Lisbon Treaty should be opposed on the grounds that the ratification process of the treaty itself is undemocratic or the European Union is itself in general undemocratic.

It is also common to call the Treaty itself undemocratic – previously because of the potential loss of an Irish commissioner – but now more concentrated around a potential loss of influence for Ireland due to reduced veto powers and reduced voting weights relative to larger states.

The problem with a debate on the merits or lack thereof of the Lisbon Treaty in the context of democracy is that there has been an ongoing existential debate about what kind of democracy we want since the earliest days of integration. This debate has never been resolved and the Union has perhaps suffered institutionally because it is a compromise between the two sides rather than a pure realisation of either idea.





Intergovernmentalism vs Supranationalism

The two concepts are democracy are the Supranational, which manifests itself to a certain extent in the European Parliament and Intergovernmental, which manifests itself in the European Council/Council of Ministers, the Commission and throughout the political culture of the Union and Member States.

Intergovernmentalism’s conception of democracy in the Union is that Union institutions should be as “transparent” as possible to national democratic institutions elected by national elections. It is an indirectly representative model.

Supranationalism’s conception of democracy in the Union is that Union institutions should be as directly “democratic” as possible to the electorate. That is, Union institutions should be directly elected. It is a direct model.

The two buzzwords associated with these positions are “transparency” for Intergovernmentalism and “democracy” for Supranationalism.

One of the things that made it extremely difficult to determine what it is Libertas actually stood for in the first Lisbon campaign and in general is that they used both of these buzzwords and never actually defined what they meant by either. Their emphasis on the importance of Commissioner as an indirect representative of Ireland suggested that they adhered to the Intergovernmental model. But their repeated reference to democracy is more associated with the Supranational model. What it implies that Ireland’s Commissioner is – apparently – now preserved but Libertas remain opposed to the treaty I do not know. This indeterminacy in Libertas’s position suggests they either do not understand the debate surrounding democracy in the Union or they chose to muddle the issue as electoral opportunism. It is very easy for a small group outside Government to criticize but offer not information on what they would do differently.

So which is more democratic, Intergovernmentalism or Supranationalism?

Well how do we define democracy?

The definition of democracy that has always stuck in my mind is “Rule of the majority with the consent of minority.”

This definition would seem to imply that the Member State vetoes found in Intergovernmentalism are legitimate as the means by which the minority does or does not give consent.

The potential political stagnation of having 27 plus vetos aside, this definition at least supports the principle of National based representation (Intergovernmentalism) at a Union level.

If only it were so simple.

The problem is that in an Intergovernmental system like we have now, elections are largely fought on National issues at the expense of Union issues and the electorate has little direct say in what happens at Union level. But Union level is becoming more and more important, so real democracy is declining. It is common to criticise the Union for being undemocratic, particularly from a national-centric perspective, what is rarely done is analyse WHY the Union is undemocratic. It is because of Intergovernmentalism.

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Originally Posted by wilting View Post
Bureaucracy and the democracy deficit are both a result of intergovernmentalism; simply put integration requires institutions, if democracy remains national-centric then those institutions will be bureaucratic, and as integration deepens real democracy will decline. If integration is inevitable (and it appears to be), then the only way to maintain democracy is make the institutions democratic, but that is not in the self interest of National Governments or large National Parties, whose whole existence and power is based upon the assumption of the legitimacy of national-centric democracy which they view as being mutually exclusive with a fully developed Union democracy.

With or without Lisbon we will still have an intergovernmental Union. You can certainly improve things in how the intergovernmentalist Union works, but it will still be an intergovernmental Union.
Nor is Surpanationalism incapable of representing the minority; pan-Union referenda could for example be qualified majority.





What does this have to do with the Lisbon Treaty?

Criticising the Lisbon Treaty on the grounds that Ireland’s veto powers or voting weights are reduced is to hold an Intergovernmentalist position.

It is strange however, that the groups that hold this position are groups that are not likely to be in the position to use those powers. Since Intergovernmentalist representation is done by (surprise) Governments it is larger and dominant parties in National political systems that are more likely to get into Government that benefit from this system. Smaller national parties have more to gain from a Supranational system because they could potentially access influence through a more powerful Union Parliament that they are locked out of by the formation of national Governments. Stronger Supranational Democracy would provide a means for small parties to strengthen opposition to National Governments.

Do Sinn Fein members and supporters honestly believe that a Fianna Fail dominated Government that they so virulently oppose is representing their interests when they sit in the Council of Ministers or European Council? Do Sociliast party supporters really believe that said Government has their interests in mind when nominating a Commissioner? Sinn Fein’s position can be explained however in that as a particularly Nationalist party their support is predicated on legitimacy of National-centric representation. A strengthened European polity would undermine the whole raison d’être of Sinn Fein so they have opposed any possible strengthening of that system at every opportunity.


But it would also undermine that of ANY party in a National-centric polity. The large parties that do or are likely to sit in Government have everything to gain from an Intergovernmentalist system – where they hold the reigns and can shut out the opposition – and everything to lose from a Supranational system – where opposition influence can creep in and National-centric basis for the electoral legitimacy may be threatened.
So parties that are on different sides of the debate on the Lisbon Treaty actually have the same basic position on democracy in the European Union – an Intergovernmentalist position.

Why would the Governments of Member States, who have a self-interest in Intergovernmentalism, negotiate a treaty that arguably weakens it, increases the role of Member State Parliaments and the Union Parliament?


There are two answers to this question.


The first answer is that those Governments have a self-interest in a smoothly functioning and effective European Union. If the Union isn’t working smoothly, then it is likely Member States will be affected, and negative effects in a Member State are likely to result in negative effects at the ballot box for Governments. The Union Parliament provides an appearance of democratic legitimacy for what is primarily an Intergovernmental political system.

On the other hand small parties like Sinn Fein, the Socialist Party and UKIP, with an extremely low chance of getting into Government, have a self-interest in a badly functioning European Union and a failing Irish (or UK) economy. The worse off we are, the more people will vote for them in protest. UKIP is a particularly extreme and bizarre case; as their whole existence is predicated on opposition to the Union they are dependent on its existence for their own, and dependent on it functioning as badly as possible for them to get as much support as possible but never quite tipping over into total failure.



The second answer is that Lisbon isn’t a particularly dramatic change, it doesn’t change the system from Intergovernmental to Supranational. It takes some baby steps but it is still essentially the same system.

The debate around democracy and the Lisbon treaty is a completely false one. Small parties can afford to use it for negative campaigning from a National centric standpoint because they won’t have to put their money where their mouth is and it isn’t in the interest of large parties for the real democracy debate to enter the public sphere. Sinn Fein actually has an interest in maintaining an Intergovernmental system, but since the public aren’t aware that the model of democracy being questioned on national centric grounds is actually built on those grounds it can be used for campaign purposes. Large parties prefer to avoid the subject because they know full well that a directly democratic European Union isn’t in their self-interest. The opposition to Lisbon isn’t a real opposition to an "undemocratic" Union at all.





The Ratification process of Lisbon

The ratification process itself is also the subject of criticism. Common claims are that Irish voters should support the Dutch and French “no” votes, and vote on behalf of all those European citizens that do not have a say.

This is an extremely dishonest position.

This claim would appear to be one that advocates a Supranational, directly democratic Union. Supranational democracy indeed offers a simple solution to this problem; pan-Union referenda.

But the groups making this claim don’t want such a system. To use Sinn Fein as an example again, it is an Intergovernmental system that is in their self interest. They also tend to be the groups criticizing the Treaty for reducing Ireland’s vetos or voting weights, or advocating a total renegotiation of the Treaty to get a better deal for Ireland.

An increased voting weight for Germany and decreased for Ireland would be proportional. It would be democratic.

The purpose of a maintaining Ireland’s vetoes is to prevent other Member States from pursuing their interests.

A renegotiated treaty implies doing so to get a better deal for Ireland at the expense of other Member States.

Claiming these things and claiming that a no vote somehow represents the interest of Citizens that can’t vote is totally hypocritical.

Voters vote in their own self interest, it is dishonest in the extreme to pretend otherwise.


The most ridiculous manifestation of this criticism is the claim that the ratification of the Treaty is undemocratic because the public is being asked to vote again. The fact that the electorate still ultimately decide aside, this is again a criticism based upon a direct model of democracy, referenda being direct. Yet the same campaigners that make this claim also advocate national vetoes, disproportionate voting weights and commissioners of the representative model. Why is it ok for politicians to indirectly represent the electorate at Union level, but not ok to make the decision as representatives at State level to run a second referendum?



Another common criticism of the Treaty is that it is simply so dense and complicated that it is inaccessible to citizens. How is an Irish voter even supposed to decide? Referenda should be on single clear issues, not bulbous amorphous treaties.

This is yet another case of criticising the Union without asking WHY something is that way. The simple answer is that the Lisbon Treaty is so complicated because of what it is; a Treaty. In an Intergovernmental system, Governments who have to please all sorts of different interests amongst the electorate have to compromise. The result is that they give a little here and take a little there and there are so many complicated forces at work that you get a massive indigestible document.

Putting such a document to a referendum in the first place is totally inappropriate. There will always be lots of things in there that the public don’t like because its a compromise, and as previously mentioned it is totally inaccessible. Referenda should be on single clear issues.

Referenda CAN be on single clear issues, like referenda on domestic issues in Ireland, if they go through an amendment process like in Ireland in Supranational democratic institutions, rather than being negotiated as Treaties in an Intergovernmental system.
This is again the case of something caused by an Intergovernmental system, easily fixed by a Supranational system, but criticised from a national centric perspective by people who either don’t know any better or don’t want you to know how the system really works. A system sustained by parties with an interest in a system that legitimises them foremost.

The reality is it is the multitude of different Member State political systems that prevent there from being more widespread referenda on treaties. It is a quirk of the Irish system that Ireland has a referendum on every single treaty. Intergovernmentalism is the problem here, as previously stated both sides of the Lisbon "debate" are Integovernmentalist, rendering it meaningless.






So does the Treaty improve or harm democracy in the Union?

It is subjective how “undemocratic” the Union really is.

Referenda can be criticised as populist. The argument could be made that modern representative democracy is far from the Athenian ideal and the European Union is little worse than the Member States in this regard. As previously illustrated, whether or not to hold referenda is a decision made at Member State level, not at Union level.

It has also been argued that much of what occurs at “bureaucratic” appointee bodies at Union level are issues that don’t really concern voters that much anyway and would have been decided by bureaucratic appointees at State level.

Personally, while I think the democracy deficit is exaggerated in some quarters, I also think it is a significant problem - caused by Intergovernmentalism.

No treaty will magically change the Union. Even if one did make all the desirable changes into a fully developed Supranational democracy, the political culture necessary to make the most of such institutions would not appear overnight. That the same groups that supposedly oppose the Lisbon treaty on democratic grounds would be likely to oppose such changes betrays either their hypocrisy, dishonest opportunism or lack of understanding of the Union itself. Institutional changes requires cultural changes and cultural changes are caused by institutional changes. Baby steps.

Each treaty deals with the issues relevant to its own times. The Lisbon treaty does make some small positive steps in increasing the powers of the Union Parliament. Their true significance would only become apparent many years after ratification – if the Treaty is ratified. The new post of President of the European Council may become a directly elected position in the next treaty, or the treaty after that. A more proportional voting weight system in the Council is consistent with the election model of proportional representation in Ireland and widespread in Member States.

It’s not perfect, but it’s a step forward.

Monday, September 21, 2009

SEEN THE POSTERS ABOUT MINIMUM WAGE? CONNOLLY,PEARSE AND CEANNT, THE PINK HEARTS? WELL HERE'S SOME INFO ON THE GAY HATERS BEHIND THEM

THERE'S THE POSTER.
HERE'S THE TRUTH ABOUT COIR and YOUTH DEFENCE

Who are they? They are run by the same people. And from the same building: the Life House on 60A Capel Street. And they make no secret of their links to each other:
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2009/0901/1224253588959.html
Youth Defence is the older of these organisations. It was founded after the X case in 1992. In that case, a 14 year old had been injuncted by the Attorney General to prevent her from going to Britain for an abortion after she had been raped by a neighbour. The Supreme Court found that a woman had the right to travel abroad for an abortion if her life was at risk, including where she – like X – was suicidal. Youth Defence were founded shortly after this and have campaigned since to have the X judgment overturned.

Brian Hickey

Brian Hickey is a leading spokesman for Coir and also for the Christian Solidarity Party. In the 2007 elections, that Party secured 0.06% of the national vote.
Hickey espouses hard line Catholic values. He believes that the use of condoms makes the problems of STDs worse:
http://www.youtube.com/user/ComharCriostai#play/all/uploads-all/0/i8umcleVeAM (from about 4.30 on)
He also says that state grants should be withdrawn from Outhouse, the IFPA and the organisation Barnardos that works to promote children’s rights and protect children from child abuse:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYfgiHpW2tI&feature=related at 4.30
On the question of whether gays are “accepted” in Irish society he says:
“The answer is that they are and they aren't. They are fully accepted, indeed celebrated, by liberal sections of the media, liberal Protestant clergy and people who have simply been brought up to tolerate them. But the rest of the western world has not been deluded into seeing homosexuality as either normal or healthy. Hence Proposition 8, and the fact that homosexuals don't make up a significant enough portion of the population to be on the panel of Questions and Answers every time a discussion of their rights comes up.”
http://partysoldier.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2008-12-27T11%3A37%3A00-08%3A00&max-results=7
He is opposed to “liberal views” on divorce and homosexuality:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Irjkdr8DYbQ&feature=related (at 5.44)
His blog links to that of Professor Maciej Giertych, of the extreme Catholic League of Polish Families. Hickey wishes to emulate the success of that party.
Professor Giertych is a controversial figure. In February 2007, Giertych sparked outrage among European Union officials and Jewish organizations by publishing a brochure called "Civilisations at war in Europe" that claimed that Jews "are biolgically different" and "create their own ghettos" because they supposedly prefer to separate themselves from others.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/827423.html
Hickey also links to the website of US former politician Pat Buchanan. Referring to AIDS in 1983, Buchanan wrote in his syndicated column that gays have "declared war upon nature, and now nature is extracting an awful retribution." He also wrote of women that they were “simply not endowed by nature with the same measures of single-minded ambition and the will to succeed in the fiercely competitive world of Western capitalism.” Buchanan also denied that the gas (carbon monoxide) used to kill jews at Sobibor and Treblinka death camps during World War Two could kill anybody. In fact at least 1.2 million jews perished at Sobibor and Treblinka, killed by that gas. Hundreds of thousands more jews were killed by that gas at other death camps like Majdanek and Chelmno.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Buchanan#cite_note-120
http://www.realchange.org/holocaus.htm

Richard Greene

Richard Greene is also a spokesman for Coir. He too holds extreme Catholic views.
He is a fierce opponent of same sex marriage and, as leader of the ultra conservative Muintir na hEireann group, told an Oireachtas committee:
“Homosexuals by their relationship itself cannot produce children, therefore they have no need of marriage.”
He also stated his opposition to same sex adoption:
“It would mean a 16-year-old who was homeless could be adopted by a homosexual couple for pervert reasons.”
http://archives.tcm.ie/irishexaminer/2005/04/23/story618823202.asp
He opposed Ireland’s decision to sign up to the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child.
http://web.archive.org/web/20021016224220/aoife.indigo.ie/~muintir/crc.htm
He also opposed Ireland’s decision to sign up to the International Criminal Court.
http://web.archive.org/web/20021207093106/aoife.indigo.ie/~muintir/icc.htm
In the run up to the divorce referendum in 1995 he was criticised for stating that Alan Shatter TD and Mervyn Taylor TD, both jewish, did not understand Christian marriage.
http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19951124&slug=2154227

Justin Barrett


Justin Barrett was a prominent Youth Defence member and believes that Ireland should withdraw from the EU.
http://archives.tcm.ie/businesspost/2003/06/15/story755617905.asp
He was the main spokesman of the No to Nice campaign in 2001. That was, until it was revealed that he attended – as guest of honour - a German neo–Nazi rally by the National Democratic Party of Germany. The following RTE clip shows the rally that Barrett admitted to attending. You can see for yourself the men in uniforms and red and black neo-Nazi flags:
http://www.rte.ie/news/2002/1011/Nice_av.html?1,null,200,http://www.rte.ie/news/2002/1011/newsatone/news1pm2a.ram
http://www.rte.ie/news/elections2004/profiles/barrettj.html
He also admitted to addressing the Youth wing of Germany’s National Democratic Party.
The NPD has been described by the German security service in a 2005 briefing as being:
“racist, antisemitic, revisionist, and intends to disparage the democratic and lawful order of the constitution."
http://www.verfassungsschutz.de/de/publikationen/verfassungsschutzbericht
And NPD are not ashamed of it either. Just check out this election poster, which is headed “We are cleaning up”:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Npdplakat2008.jpg
Barrett has set out his views on the future of Ireland in his publication “The National Way Forward.” In it, he calls for a presidential style of government which would replace parliamentarianism.
http://archives.tcm.ie/businesspost/2003/06/15/story755617905.asp
The Sunday Tribune reports that Barrett is still involved with Coir. But, not surprising given his neo Nazi links, this is not public.
http://www.tribune.ie/article/2009/sep/06/their-ideal-is-based-on-a-catholic-ireland/

Friday, September 18, 2009

IVAN YATES ON GANLEY'S AND THE NO CAMPAIGN'S LIES


Contempt for politicians no reason to repudiate vital national interests

Thursday, September 17, 2009


The state guarantee on Irish bank deposits, nationalisation of Anglo Irish Bank and NAMA would all have been impossible without the ECB’s €100bn.


Their resources funded the NTMA five and 10-year bond issues. Anglo’s liquidity and deposit hiatus with Irish Life & Permanent was overcome by European support

WE are entering the home straight in the Lisbon Treaty referendum campaign, with voting day tomorrow fortnight. Last time, the most effective campaigning tactic was to create months of doubt and confusion and then convert this uncertainty into a No vote result.

The constant theme was "If you don’t know — vote no". A similar ploy is now in play. The prevailing general public mood is fear, insecurity and anxiety about jobs, standards of living and public services.

Life is a worsening struggle for virtually everybody. Money is tight. The blame game for our woes alternates between politicians, bankers and developers.

The popularity of politicians is taking a pounding. Hey presto. The No campaign catchphrase this time is "If you are annoyed — vote no".

Voters are invited to send a message of rejection to our politicians, especially the Government, by defeating the treaty a second time. This strategy appears superficially attractive and is working.

This country requires three attributes from our politicians: strong and courageous leadership; insistence on accountability from all holders of public office and semi-states; a sense of vision as to the long-term destiny of the state in order to provide hope for a brighter future.

This latter prospect can be provided by the EU. It gives us the opportunity to participate on an international stage politically, provide markets and jobs to sustain economic growth and allow our unique culture and identity to flourish.

A second rejection of the treaty has far more profound political consequences for Ireland than the previous vote. In June 2008, a number of states still had to ratify the treaty. Despite our No vote the 26 other states have proceeded with their own national endorsement.

Recently, Germany’s Bundestag and Bundesrat adopted the text. The equivalent of the German supreme court interpreted the transfer of powers therein as not constituting a European federal state. This leaves the Czech Republic and Poland as the only other outstanding states to approve the treaty. Their respective parliaments have given assent, while their presidents have agreed to sign if Ireland votes Yes.

Our vote is set to be the final step in enacting the treaty. It is naive in the extreme to believe there will not be political repercussions for Ireland’s relationship with the rest of the EU if we reject it again. There will be rejoicing among British Eurosceptics in UKIP and the Tories. One of the supreme ironies of this campaign could be that narrow-minded nationalism, which has rejected every Euro vote, could move Ireland back into a dependency on Britain. Since 1973 we have prospered by developing relationships beyond our nearest neighbour. Maybe more nationalism will lead to less independence. The overpowering arguments favouring a Yes vote are economic. The extent of the damage of a No vote is unquantifiable. Jobs are at risk. Foreign direct investment is vital to our economic recovery.

Manufacturing industry and international export service companies produce €103bn of our national output. We have become a less attractive location for investment because of our relative 20% loss of competitiveness. The low corporation tax rate of 12.5% and the high skill levels of our labour force are key attractions. However, these are all secondary to our EU market access.

The joke about the difference between Ireland and Iceland being the letter ‘c’ and six months is outdated. The real difference between the two states is that we have full membership of the euro currency and are committed EU participants, whereas Iceland is a small, isolated island knocking on the door. We are struggling to maintain our share of foreign investment. A No result could have a significant negative impact — just ask our largest private sector employer Intel.

The credit crunch has distorted our lives. Wealth and assets have halved in value. Both government and business desperately need access to credit. Our national debt is rapidly escalating from €30bn to €75bn. If the cost of NAMA bonds is added to our sovereign debt we will owe our total annual GDP, circa €150bn. Current NTMA rounds of funding have been successful. We are paying 1.6% above other euro currency governments. If the treaty is rejected, diminished confidence could result in us having to pay a 2% premium. Even an additional 0.5% would cost €120 million on this year’s extra debt alone.

Not only will the cost of finance be a greater burden on taxpayers, access to credit may be restricted. The ECB has underwritten all the Government’s measures to tackle the banking crisis to date.

The state guarantee on Irish bank deposits, nationalisation of Anglo Irish Bank and NAMA would all have been impossible without the ECB’s €100bn. Their resources funded the NTMA five and 10-year bond issues. Anglo’s liquidity and deposit hiatus with Irish Life & Permanent was overcome by European support. We cannot ignore the compelling reality of dependence on the euro currency.

Declan Ganley is back. His stated reason for re-entering the fray was because of the "huge lies" being told by the Yes side. He should have perused the Cóir No posters. One of these alleges the minimum wage could be reduced to €1.84 if Lisbon were adopted. The EU will have absolutely no role in the level of the minimum wage in each state. As stated by the Labour Court, this is set down in Irish law and is irrelevant to the treaty.

Éire go Brágh published a notice in the September edition of the Catholic monthly publication Alive. It stated: "Under the Lisbon Treaty, the EU could seize elderly people’s savings and homes, and can take children off people who suffer from mild forms of alcoholism or depression ..."

This is a total falsehood.

LIBERTAS castigates the Yes campaign for "half-truths". During the No campaign last year, we were warned a vote in favour of the Lisbon Treaty would lead to legalised abortion, conscription into an EU army and a common European rate of corporation profits tax.

The Yes side repeatedly asserted these three issues weren’t part of the treaty obligations. The declaration and subsequent protocol readily agreed by EU leaders has given explicit reassurance on these points. The neutral status of six member states is fully preserved. The treaty text remains unaltered. Hence, the "half-truths" emanated from the No campaign.

Did you ever wonder about the marginalised nature of the No campaigners? Patricia McKenna, Joe Higgins, Richard Greene and Declan Ganley all have had varying associations with mainstream political parties. They became disaffected, were rejected by voters or party selection conventions.

In the event of a No outcome none of these will have to pick up the pieces of maintaining Ireland’s credibility abroad. All significant groups who bear that responsibility (eg, main political parties, ICTU, IBEC, farm organisations, etc) are advocating a Yes vote. Realism cannot be ignored.

Many aspects of the EU and enlargement are not particularly appealing or advantageous to us. Brussels bureaucracy has its faults. But it is the only show around.

Any amount of contempt for our politicians is insufficient reason to repudiate our vital national interests. A treaty rejection must prompt the phrase "Last out, turn out the lights".

Eoghan Harris on Justice Donal Barrington

(See http://ganleydeclan.blogspot.com/2009/09/justice-donal-barrington-on-declan.html

for Donal Barrington on Why to Vote Yes to Lisbon)


On Lisbon, the last word belongs to former Supreme Court judge Donal Barrington, whom age has not withered nor custom staled. Last Thursday, on TV3’s Nightly News, he sardonically agreed with Patricia McKenna that the Government's Lisbon guarantees meant little — but only to subvert her anti-Lisbon case. As he sardonically put it: “We now have a guarantee from the European community that your young people will not be conscripted into an army which doesn’t exist and which the EU has no power to raise.”

But Barrington's best was yet to come. When Vincent Browne asked him what the Romans of the EU had ever done for us, Barrington said he was old enough to remember the 1950s when barefooted children played in Dublin’s O’Connell Street; when businessmen left town in what was called the “Killiney flit”; when emigration was 100,000 a year; when our population had fallen to 2.8 million; when an American Jesuit had written a book saying the Irish people were destined, like the Jews, to be scattered all over the world; when, although nominally an independent state, we were still inside the British imperial system where our real role was to provide cheap labour, cheap food and soldiers for Britain. But then Barrington said we joined the European Union, and in 30 years we went from being one of Europe’s poorest countries to being one of its richest. And then he rested his case. The man is a national treasure.

BRING BACK SAC TO DEAL WITH THE COIR LUNATICS -

One of the best posters to ever appear on Dublin's streets.
Although it went up in the mid-80s when those that moan about Lisbon 2 could not get enough referenda on abortion, we could do with something similar today.
"Think" was also the work of some of the bloggers here at Barricade.

We never made up our minds what SAC stood for - Secular Action Committee - was the name we threw out most often.

Tuesday, September 15, 2009

Remember No voters – you are doing what George Bush wants you to do. (Hey that’s why Ganley is here ;stupid)

John Bolton:
The Lisbon Treaty poses a threat to Nato and undermines democracy by handing more power to Brussels, a former senior advisor to President George W Bush has warned.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/2094840/John-Bolton-Lisbon-Treaty-will-undermine-democracy.html

John Bolton's Irish adventure

Why did the famous neocon and former UN ambassador take sides in Ireland's referendum?

Some time ago I asked who needs Fox News when you have John Bolton? Well, the Irish referendum slightly reformulated the question around the man: who needs sovereign democracy when you have John Bolton?

There he was on June 8, declaring the Lisbon Treaty posed a threat to Nato and undermined democracy by handing more power to Brussels bureaucrats. It is worth noting that Ireland is not even a member of Nato – but only before asking what on earth he was doing, interfering in a process not relevant to him or his country?

A large part of the answer must be that the Bolton opinion apparently knows no bounds. The world was his stage as US ambassador to the UN, then it was taken away from him by his own people in the US Congress, since he only got the job in a recess appointment, snuck in by his mate the president. So he is now reduced to hawking his mindless opinions around any stage available.

But another part of the answer may be related to a slightly more problematic question: was there a US interest in the outcome of the Irish referendum? Again, a large part of the answer must be a resounding "no". The US is absorbed in itself even more than usual, since this is an election year. However, and notwithstanding, there are some persistent murmurs of a rightwing desire in the US to undermine the Lisbon Treaty, in an attempt to weaken the EU as a strong economic partner and a potential rival for world power.

Such murmurs would be worthy of a giggle, were it not for some questions that now emerge, related to Declan Ganley, head of Libertas, whicht fronted the "no" campaign in Ireland. He was apparently shopping around for a PR company in Brussels to help him with his task. This was a year ago, and it should show his abysmal ignorance of the EU in that all PR shops in Brussels make their living out of helping companies and clients interface with the union, not close it down, so he found little joy. But here is the crucial fact: he was directed to Brussels by the Washington offices of various PR consultancies. In other words, he had gone to Washington first. And that begs the question: why is an Irish entrepreneur seeking a lobbying company on an EU referendum in Washington?

For someone who claims to have made his fortune by his own wits – and someone who also claims to have decided to fight the Lisbon Treaty after reading through it to seek business opportunities – it is implausible to assume he did not know his own way to Brussels, or found out lobbying possibilities through his own Irish connections. One can only assume therefore that he started his quest in Washington because that was where his connections lay.

Ganley remains an enigma in Ireland – though much has been made of his company's contracts with US defence forces in Iraq. (That in itself is ironic, since one of his central claims was that Ireland would be forced into a – non-existent – EU army and become militarised if the Lisbon Treaty was passed.) But then again, many international companies supply the US military. Indeed, one of them is owned by Ulick McEvaddy, another Irish entrepreneur who heads Omega Air, a Texas-based company that offers commercial airborne refuelling of military aircraft. He is one of the very few known contributors to Ganley's organisation, for on the whole it remains totally unclear how Libertas was funded or by whom.

It also remains unclear why John Bolton felt the need, or authority, to comment upon a purely Irish – and possibly European – affair. Even with his vast ego, he cannot be accused of being stupid.

These are uncomfortable questions, which are in some ways on the sidelines of the Irish referendum – and in others right at its heart. For it was and remains about democracy and its workings. And to may observers, the referendum seems anything but democratic.

Much has been made about this being the third referendum to reject the treaty that was once the constitution – but it must also be said that it stands out as different, and not because of Ireland's size. For at base, in the previous two referenda, in France and the Netherlands, some of the major political parties expressed doubts and openly joined the "no" campaign. In Ireland this was adamantly not the case. All the elected political parties bar one – Sinn Fein – were in favour of the treaty.

Sinn Fein is also a legal and duly elected political party, but while Jonathan Powell has done a masterful job of portraying the positive traits of Gerry Adams, it has to be said that one definition of a nightmare was watching him last Friday preach to Europe about the merits of respecting legalities and democracy – closely followed by pictures of anti-abortionists spitting at the Irish Finance Minister when he was trying to speak on the Treaty.

At base therefore, there is a big question to ask: why is it more democratic to have the result of a referendum run by a bizarre alliance of Libertas, anti-abortionists and Gerry Adams decide the fate of the EU than ratification of the treaty by duly-elected governments?

To single-mindedly say: "Yes, it is so because the people have spoken," is to ignore that the people also spoke at the elections, in all EU member states. And those people empowered their governments to make decisions, including the ratification of treaties. Why is their will, and their system of government, less democratic?

To argue now that the people in other member states are being denied a right given to the Irish people is also daft: if one thing is clear, it is that no one voted on the substance of the treaty since no-one – from the prime minister of Ireland down to the youngest of voters – appeared to have read it. Indeed, its very complexity was one of the reasons given for the "no" vote.

One of the most basic issues behind discontent with the EU is the democratic deficit. Unfortunately the Irish referendum only increased concerns on this matter rather than clearly showing how EU decision making could be more democratic. For at the end of the day, respecting the will of the people must be an act encompassing the whole and not the part, and the part must show that they have voted for a clear issue rather than a mixed bag of single issue concerns melded into an unholy alliance and backed by mysterious funds.

A RANT ON WHY THE EU IS GOOD FOR US

Wake up you dopes.
Ireland before the EEC/EC/EU was a tragic, alcoholic, wife beating, child molesting, paedophile priest dominated, unemployed syphilitic hellhole.
You woke up to nothing to wake up to.
Catatonic breakfast. Food? Shit food.
Skip it. Skip town.
The only thing you could do was get the hell out.
Sadly the UK was the main option or you went illegal in the US.
Ireland existed as a source of cheap labour for Britain and a source of missionaries for the world.
Beyond that, Ireland was a rank, damp TB ridden basement bed-sit of a country.
A psychologically ill basket case capable of feeding and employing a mere fraction of its citizens.

Then the EC.
The first visible consequence was social - Dutch and Germans came here.
They made cheese, they baked.
And after a decade the slow, fish-hating locals - hey that's why we gave our fish to the Spanish. We didn't like them, they tasted fishy. Fish was penance. Fish was Friday. Shell fish yuck. We'll give our fish and you give us more money to fund our cows. Glorious cows. Moo cows. Milk Cows. Beef Cows. Bearers of the incinerated steak we ate with cabbage cooked to paste - started to copy the foreigners.
Those weirdos are on to something.
Maybe rivers aren't a place to dump old cars. Sure the flash fellas in Dublin will eat that salmon. You have to smoke it though’.
Jaysus, hurry get the slurry out of the river.
Then the locals were joined by a strange class of people, returnees - no longer "proper Irish", they didn't wear bitterness with pride- coming home from weird places that were not called Cricklewood or the Bronx but Barcelona, Toulouse, Hamburg, Antwerp.
And guess what? The Big Brother EU didn't bar code their foreheads. No the EU freed us to go where we wanted.
Free from the violence, bribery, backwardness, incestuousness, mental decay. Free from the fourth "missing field'. Free from the Ard Fheis. Free from baton charges in Ballsbridge. Free from the dirty protest. (That came natural).
Free from Tom Murphy's Whistle in the Dark. Free from the Great Hunger.
Hunger, now we're back at the table again.
Shut up Da!
Behold is that a vegetarian restaurant I see before me in Dingle. Sushi in Akakista.
Hey where did all these roads come from?
(Thanks again to the Germans – they put food on the table, and then drove us to the restaurant.).
Suddenly when the kids came back from Europe they barely recognised the place.
And then, holy Mary, that queer Norris brought our homosexuality laws to Europe.
And the genie was out.
Contraception in pubs! Are you mad or what!
Suddenly we had been given all the toys. Finally we were big boys.
And what did we do?
You know what we did.
Do want an answer? The fuck you do!
Jesus, we are a substance abusing, spoilt, immature child that should not be left on its own.
The only mature thing about this country is our alliance with Europe.
Outside of that Ireland is a basket case.

If we don't look out to Europe - the Wahhabi wing of the Catholic Church - COIR - will have us looking up through whisky red eyes at the Virgin Mary.

"Ah sure Mary will understand. The younger sister was asking for it."